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SEPTEMBER 13, 2019 7:00PM ET
Exclusive Interview: Bernie Sanders Discusses the Debate, Joe Biden, and Corporate America
In a special episode of the Useful Idiots podcast, Sanders talked about fighting corporate talking points, his “huge” differences with Joe Biden, and his thoughts on how best to take on Donald Trump.
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VIDEO -- INTERVIEW 30:21 MIN DURATION

The third Democratic debate was a bizarre affair, marked by whimsical outbursts by Kamala Harris (“Hey-y-y-y, Joe” seemed to catch everyone off guard), the unveiling of Yosemite Sam-inspired epithet (Cory Booker’s “Dagnabit”), and heated exchanges between Julian Castro, Joe Biden, and “Mayor Pete” Buttigieg.

One candidate who didn’t participate in the silliness was Bernie Sanders. Hoarse after a tiring stretch of campaigning — Bernie says he lost his voice after a huge rally in Denver three days ago — Sanders, as he has all campaign, doggedly pushed hardcore issues like Medicare for All, climate change legislation, and a reduced defense budget.

Sanders in this race has been all business. Despite numerous reports of his demise, and transparent efforts by some media outlets to write him out of the race early (a New York Times graphic before the debate placed Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden alone in a “center stage” graphic), he remains entrenched as one of the finalists in what increasingly looks like a three-candidate field atop the polls.

In 2016, Bernie had little trouble outlining for voters the differences between himself and a single familiar opponent, Hillary Clinton.

In the 2020 race, his challenge will be drawing contrasts with two very different candidates in Biden, an old-school establishment Democrat, and Warren, the ascending liberal challenger.

On his way to Nevada for a campaign event, Sanders spoke to Rolling Stone podcast hosts Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper by phone. In a special episode of Useful Idiots, he talked about fighting corporate talking points, the “huge” differences between himself and Joe Biden on policy, and his thoughts on how best to take on Donald Trump.

Below is a transcript

Matt Taibbi: How are you doing?

Bernie Sanders: Great, other than not having a strong voice. I lost my voice in Denver – I forgot there was a microphone. So there you go.

Taibbi: Are you not feeling well?

Sanders: No, I’m feeling fine. It’s just that I’ve been doing too many speeches.

Taibbi: You do a lot of them.

Sanders: We’re off to Nevada in a few hours. So there you go.

Taibbi: Excellent. Well we won’t take up too much of your time. We just wanted to talk a little bit about the debate last night. One of the themes, with regard to you: a couple of candidates, Secretary Castro, Senator Harris, they dropped a line about how we want to thank Senator Sanders, give you credit for moving the Medicare debate. But the subtext of it was, essentially, “Thanks a lot Bernie, we’ll take it from here.” Where do they want to take it, and why is that a bad idea? What’s the difference between what you’re saying and what they’re saying?

Sanders: Thanks for asking that question. Look, at the end of the day, we have to make a fundamental decision in this country. Number one, is healthcare a human right, or is it not? If it is a human right, then we guarantee healthcare to every man, woman and child, regardless of income.

And what we say is, if you’re sick, if you need to check up, you go to any doctor you want to, you go to any hospital you want to, and you don’t have to take out your credit card, you don’t have to pay a nickel out of your pocket for that visit. Because that’s what healthcare is, if we talk about it as a human right. And that’s what exists in Canada, that’s what exists in most industrialized countries around the world.

And then the second point is, we have to ask ourselves, which my opponents are not, is: why is it that we’re spending twice as much per person on healthcare as the people of any other country?

That’s a profound statement. I got all these conservatives who want to save money. We’re spending $11,000 a year per person on healthcare, twice what the Canadians spend, what the French spend, what the Germans spend. They manage to cover all of their people.

The answer gets to the whole heart and soul of this debate. Is the function of healthcare to make $100 billion in profit for the healthcare industry, which is what they made last year? Is it to make billions of dollars in profits for the drug companies, medical equipment suppliers? Or is the function of healthcare to provide healthcare to all people in a cost-effective way?

So to answer your question… what Medicare For All, the bill that I wrote, does, it expands on what the Canadians do. This is not a new idea. It does away with all premiums, all copayments, all out-of-pocket expenses.

Anybody goes to any doctor, any hospital that you want. We phase it in over a four-year period. Medicare is a popular program right now, only applicable by and large to people 65 and older. Four-year period, we go down to 55, 45, 35, and we cover everybody. We expand the kind of healthcare that people get to include, dental care, which is a big, big deal, hearing aids and eye vision as well. That’s it.

Taibbi: Last night was interesting. Before the debate, a pharmaceutical lobby, the Partnership for America’s Healthcare Future, was urging candidates to equate Medicare For All with a middle-class tax hike. And right on cue, Vice-President Biden does that. Is that going to be a new talking point that you’re going to have to deal with, with Medicare For All?

Sanders: Absolutely, he is echoing what the health industry wants him to say. So here’s the point, let me say it again. I’ll give just one example. I talked to a guy last week who works for a large company, as a matter of fact, and he has pretty good health insurance. So we chatted. This is the story, like millions of other Americans.

He has a family of four, I believe. He is paying $1000 a month in premiums, and he has a $4000 deductible. That means in his case, he is spending $16,000 a year. This is not to mention what his employer is paying, which is probably an equal amount. But he’s paying $16,000 a year out of his own pocket before he gets a nickel of coverage from his insurance company. Now, Joe Biden may think that he’s delighted, this guy is delighted to pay these premiums. And the answer is that what you pay premiums or you’re paying taxes, you’re paying money out of your own pocket.

Under Medicare For All, that guy, and virtually everybody in America, will be spending less on their healthcare, because there are no more premiums under my bill. No more out-of-pocket expenses, no more co-payments. And nobody in America will pay more than $200 a year for prescription drugs.

So if you’re upset that under a Bernie Sanders proposal, in his case you’ll pay whatever it may be, being hypothetical here. You’ll pay $9000 a year out of your pocket in taxes, as opposed to $16000 a year in premiums and out-of-pocket expenses.

Fine. I don’t think that guy will be upset about it. I think he will be delighted about it. So that is what the issue is, and it is really disturbing that we have Democratic candidates who are echoing the talking points of the healthcare industry. Which, let us not forget, made $100 billion in profits last year. And will be spending hundreds of millions of dollars to try to defeat my proposal.

Katie Halper: Senator, I’m Katie Halper. I wanted to know, you talk a lot about movement politics, and of course your motto is, “Not me, us.” What will the movement have to do when you’re president to keep you responsible to the movement, to keep your feet to the fire? Which I’m sure is something you want the movement to do, but what are they going to have to do, just so we can prepare?

Sanders: Well Katie, we are living in an unprecedented moment in American history. And it’s not just the racism and the pathological lying and the sexism and the homophobia of Donald Trump. It goes beyond that. And I’m the only candidate I think who talks about this consistently.

And I know Matt, you guys have been writing about this for years, you’re some of the few people in America who write about this stuff. And that is, we are looking not only at the incredible greed of the corporate elite, but the corruption of the corporate elite, and the power of the corporate elite.

So you’re talking about Wall Street, you’re talking about six banks that have assets equivalent to half of the GDP in this country, more than $10 trillion. Banks that borrow money at 2.5% and charge people 25%, 30% interest rates on their credit cards.

You’re talking about the drug companies, who are involved in price fixing. They’re now under assault in court cases right now for selling opiates to the American people when they knew that those opiates were addictive. You’re talking about the insurance industry charging us the highest prices in the world for healthcare. You’re talking about the fossil fuel industry knowing, knowingly, producing a product that is destroying the planet. What can you say about that? So you’re talking about corruption, you’re talking about incredible power. And when we talk about the debate last night, and every other debate that I have been on, these are issues that we’re not allowed to talk about.

No commentator, no moderator, has ever asked me about the power of the corporate elite, the corruption of the corporate elite, and how you deal with that issue. And obviously that is at the heart and soul of what this campaign is about.

Katie, to answer your question, what I have said and I think you’ve heard me say this a million times, is no president, not Bernie Sanders, anybody else, can do it alone. Because these people have unlimited amounts of money, they control the corporate media, they have unbelievable power. The only way we defeat them is with a President of the United States who is prepared to stand up to them.

But behind that president has got to be an unprecedented grassroots movement of millions of people. Who are telling the insurance companies, “Sorry, everybody in this country will have healthcare as a human right.” Telling the fossil fuel industry, “Sorry, your short-term profits are not more important than the future of this planet.” Telling the drug companies, “Sorry, we’re not going to die because we cannot afford the outrageous prices of your medicine.” The only way we accomplish that is with a mass movement, that is what this campaign is about.

Halper: And what is the mass movement going to look like? Does that mean protests, does that mean running for office?

Sanders: That means mobilizing millions of people, to run for office absolutely, to make it clear in a way that does not happen right now. Give you an example. Last month I was in Louisville Kentucky, challenging McConnell to bring up gun safety legislation, to bring up the bills passed in the House that raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour. To bring up the legislation passed in the House which will do the best that we can to prevent Russian intervention in our elections.

Kentucky, it turns out, is a poor state. It is a state where people are struggling. And yet you got a senator there from Kentucky, not only McConnell but Rand Paul, in a poor state, that believe in massive tax breaks for the rich, and cuts to social security, Medicare, Medicaid, education, environmental protection.

How does that happen? How do you have a poor state, a struggling state, elect the people who represent the interests of the rich and the powerful, and ignore the needs of the vast majority of the people in that state? And what the political revolution is about is going into those states, and I have been into Kentucky, got a lot of support there, going into West Virginia, another poor state, going into so-called red states, and blue states, and rallying the working class of this country.

Here is the main point, that I try to make all over this country. The ideas that I am talking about, raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, healthcare for all, making public colleges and universities tuition-free, canceling student debt, dealing with climate change aggressively, these are not radical ideas. These are ideas that the working class of this country supports.

Problem is, we have a lot of people who are not voting. We’ve got to get them voting. With have a lot of young people who are very, very progressive, who are not involved in the political process. We’ve got to get them involved. The only way you do that is by having the ideas, the movement that brings them into the political process. And that’s what we’re working on day after day right now.

Taibbi: I want to talk a little bit about what your strategy would be if you were in the general election. A lot of the candidates, both in the last race and in this year already, they fall into the trap when they’re campaigning against Donald Trump of trading insults with him, getting into this endless cycle of barbs, and the media loves to cover that.

Correct me if I’m wrong, I feel like you have a different strategy. You don’t seem to want to engage Trump on that level. You always seem to want to continue talking to voters, almost past him, and focus on the issues, focus on your message of opposing corporate power.

If you were the nominee, how would you deal with Donald Trump differently from the other candidates?

Sanders: I think, Matt, that what you said is basically correct. On one hand you cannot ignore his pathological lying, his racism, his sexism, his xenophobia, his religious bigotry. I mean you can’t do that. You have to defend people who are being attacked by this racist president.

But on the other hand, if you become obsessed, and I think this is the point you’re making, if you become obsessed with Donald Trump’s tweets, you fall into his trap. So I think the main point we make, when we go to states like Michigan, when you go to Wisconsin, when you go to Pennsylvania, when you go to Florida, is you say to the working people of those states, “You know what, not only is this guy a liar, he’s a fraud.

He told you that he was going to stand with the working class of this country, he told you he was going to take on Wall Street and the drug companies and the insurance companies. Well the evidence is clear, he lied to you.”

You don’t stand with the working class when you try to throw 32 million people off of health insurance. You don’t stand with the working class of this country when 83% of the tax benefits that you push for, that you succeeded in getting, go to the top 1% at the end of 10 years. You’re not standing with the working class.

You remember, Matt and Katie, that when he campaigned he said, “I’m a different type of Republican, I’m not going to cut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.” Absolute lie. His budget does exactly that.

So he said, “I want American companies not to go abroad.” Well he’s producing products for his own company abroad. “Oh my God, it’s terrible that we have all these undocumented people in this country, I hate undocumented people.” Oh yeah? Well they’re working in your companies.

They’re working at your resorts, Donald Trump, you’re a goddamned liar. Forgive me. Shouldn’t say that.

Taibbi: Everybody’s using profanity now, it’s okay.

Sanders: All right. And that’s what you expose him, is the fraud. Here he is hiring undocumented people in his own resorts, after he is ranting and raving and demonizing undocumented people. So I think that is the point you make to working-class people: he lied to you.

And I think we also have to understand, and you’ve heard me say this a million times, Matt – that is to my mind, it wasn’t that Trump won, it’s that the Democratic Party lost. And the Democratic Party forgot about the tens of millions of working-class people in this country, black and white and Latino, Native American, Asian-American, people who are struggling.

Half of the people in this country are living paycheck to paycheck. Car breaks down, they’re in severe trouble. They can’t afford to go to the doctor. Those are the folks we have to start paying attention to. And when we do that, you’ll defeat Donald Trump.

Taibbi: In 2016, when you ran against Hillary Clinton, you made a very clear argument. You said, the first difference is I wouldn’t take money from the banks. You made a very clear distinction about the difference between you and Hillary Clinton, that she essentially was receiving the largesse of a lot of the corporations the we’re talking about.

Do you have to make the same argument now about Joe Biden?

Sanders: Yes, you do. And the point we made, it is impossible to take on the greed and corruption of the corporate elite if you’re taking their money. And on that note, let me say something that I’m really very, very proud of. It’s just something I’m telling you from the heart.

Is that right now, as of today, we have received more individual contributions than any candidate at this point in an election in American history. I think we have three million individual contributions, from very close to one million individual contributors. So a million people, three million contributions. No candidate in American history at this point in a campaign has ever done that.

And these campaigns, there was a piece in the paper the other day. These contributions are coming from working-class people. That’s where they’re coming from. They’re coming from teachers, who I think are our largest single source of funding. They’re coming from workers at Amazon, they’re coming from workers in Target. They’re coming from waiters and waitresses.

This is a working-class campaign, taking on the corporate elite, funded by the working class of this country. We are 100% funded at the grassroots level. I don’t go to wealthy people’s homes to raise money, and our average contribution, God knows, what is it? Nineteen or twenty bucks a piece.

So this is historical. There’s never been a campaign that has relied on working-class financial support to the degree that we are. And I’ve got to tell you, I’m extremely proud of that.

Taibbi: Was it out of bounds last night for Secretary Castro to chide Vice-President Biden about, “Did you forget what you said two minutes ago?” Do you think it’s a legitimate question to talk about things like gaffes, an inability to string sentences together….

Sanders: All I can tell you, Matt, that’s not my style. I don’t try to engage in personal attacks on people. Joe Biden and I have enormous differences regarding our voting record, and how we envisage the future of this country.

Biden voted for the war in Iraq, I opposed it. Biden voted for these terrible trade agreements, NAFTA and PNPR with China, which have cost us over four million jobs. I helped lead the opposition against that. Biden voted for the Wall Street bailout, I did everything I could to prevent that. Biden voted for this terrible bankruptcy bill, I voted against it.

So his views, his voting record, very different than mine. His views on healthcare, on climate, on the needs of working-class people are very different. Those are the areas that I will focus on. I think we’ve only got another minute or so, guys.

Halper: Okay. So who will your running mate be when you win the nomination?

Taibbi: Katie volunteers.

Halper: I volunteer.

Sanders: Send me your resume.

Halper: Matt has agreed to release me.

Taibbi: From her contract.

Sanders: Well you know, a Vice-President needs a staff, Matt needs a steady job, so there you go.

Taibbi: Sounds good.

Halper: You talk about how lacking substance sometimes these debates can be. Anything that you wanted to say, that you didn’t get a chance to say last night?

Sanders: I was disappointed that I didn’t get the chance to speak about the racial justice issue, that I didn’t have a chance to speak about immigration, didn’t have a chance to speak about climate change.

I am very proud of having introduced by far the most comprehensive climate change legislation ever introduced by any presidential candidate. And I’ve been attacked because that’s a very expensive proposal, $16 trillion. It actually pays for itself.

But the point that I have made over and over again, is what is the alternative? In terms of not doing everything humanly possible to combat climate change and transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency. What is the alternative? If we do not do this, what the scientists are telling us…

Just stop and think, we’re not talking about hundreds of years or thousands of years. In terms of extreme weather, think right now in the last few years what happened in the Bahamas, what’s happened in Puerto Rico, what happened in New Orleans. I’m in Houston right now. Of what is happening in Charleston, South Carolina. What we are seeing with our own eyes right now in the United States. Not to mention the heat waves in Europe, in Australia, in India. Not to mention that hundreds of thousands of people in Guatemala are unable to grow the food that they need in order to feed themselves.

Think about that problem becoming much, much worse in years to come. We are literally fighting for the future of the planet. And I don’t know how anybody can say we cannot afford to do that. Because if we do not, the planet we leave our kids and our grandchildren becomes increasingly unhealthy and uninhabitable. We just cannot allow that to happen.

So I’m proud that our proposal is supported by some major environmental groups, it is the most comprehensive proposal out there, and we have to do nothing less than do everything possible to save this planet.

Halper: To people who say you have great ideas but you can’t win the general – what’s your response to that?

Sanders: I would suggest to them, take a look at every credible poll done in the last year. Every credible poll has me defeating Donald Trump, sometimes by double-digit figures. Interestingly enough, just a poll came out the other day in Texas, of all places, having me beating Trump by six points, which is more than any other Democratic candidate.

We won Wisconsin in the primary process last time, we won Michigan. I believe we can win Pennsylvania, I believe we can win North Carolina. I believe we can win Texas and some other states that Trump won. In point of fact, to beat Trump you’re going to need a campaign of energy and excitement, you’re going to need to bring young people and working-class people into that campaign in a way that we have never, ever seen before.

I don’t think that status quo politics, the politics of Joe Biden, is going to do that. So I think we are the campaign to defeat Donald Trump.
Halper: Thank you.
Taibbi: Thank you, Senator, and have a good trip to Nevada.
Sanders: Take care.
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FOR THE FIRST OF MY MENTAL WANDERINGS FROM THE SUBJECT OF THE DAY, GO TO THIS WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE ON MIKE TAIBBI, WHOSE PORTRAIT DRAWING SHOWS A MAN WITH A NOTICEABLY TAN COLORED SKIN, AND IN REAL LIFE HE DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WAY AT ALL. MAYBE IT'S THE BAD LIGHTING, AS D. TRUMP JUST TODAY CLAIMED ABOUT WHY HE KEEPS GETTING PORTRAYED AS BEING "ORANGE." IT IS PROBABLY EXPLAINED BY THE OPENING BIO OF TAIBBI IN INFOGALACTIC, I THINK. NO MATTER WHAT SKIN COLOR I THINK HE HAS, HIS FATHER WAS PARTLY FILIPINO AND HAWAIIAN, AND WAS ADOPTED BY A SICILIAN COUPLE NAMED TAIBBI. INFOGALACGTIC LOOKS TO BE A USEFUL NEW COMPETITOR TO WIKIPEDIA. SEE BELOW.

Matt Taibbi
From Infogalactic: the planetary knowledge core

Matt Taibbi
Taibbi in 2008
Born
Matthew C. Taibbi
March 2, 1970 (age 49)
Nationality
Occupation
Journalist, political writer, columnist
Spouse(s)
Jeanne
Relatives
Mike Taibbi (father)

Matthew C. "Matt" Taibbi (/taɪˈiːbi/; born March 2, 1970) is an American author and journalist. Taibbi has reported on politics, media, finance, and sports, and has authored several books, including Insane Clown President (2017), The Divide: American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap (2014), Griftopia: Bubble Machines, Vampire Squids, and the Long Con That Is Breaking America (2010) and The Great Derangement: A Terrifying True Story of War, Politics, and Religion (2009).

Personal life and early years

Matt Taibbi was born in 1970 to Mike Taibbi, an NBC television reporter, and his wife. According to Matt, his surname Taibbi is a Sicilian name of Lebanese/Arabic origin, but his father, who is partly of Filipino-Hawaiian descent,[1] was adopted as a child by a Sicilian-American couple who possessed the surname.[2] He grew up in the Boston, Massachusetts suburbs. He attended Concord Academy in Concord, Massachusetts, and graduated in 1992[3] from Bard College located in Annandale-on-Hudson, New York. He spent a year abroad studying at Saint Petersburg Polytechnical University in Russia. Taibbi is atheist/agnostic.[4]

Career

Taibbi joined Mark Ames in 1997 to co-edit the English-language Moscow-based, bi-weekly free newspaperThe eXile, which was written primarily for the city's expatriate community. The eXile's tone and content were highly controversial. To some, its commentary was brutally honest and gleefully tasteless; others considered it juvenile, misogynistic, and even cruel.[5] [6][7] In the U.S. media, Playboy magazine published pieces on Russia both by Taibbi and by Taibbi and Ames together during this time. In 2000, Taibbi published his first book, The Exile: Sex, Drugs, and Libel in the New Russia. He later stated that he was addicted to heroin while he did this early writing.[8]
In 2002, he returned to the U.S. to start the satirical bi-weekly The Beast in Buffalo, New York. He left that publication, saying that "Running a business and writing is too much." Taibbi continued as a freelancer for The NationPlayboyNew York Press (where he wrote a regular political column for more than two years), Rolling Stone, and New York Sports Express (as Editor at Large).
Taibbi left the New York Press in August 2005. It was shortly after his editor Jeff Koyen was forced out over issues raised by Taibbi's column, "The 52 Funniest Things About The Upcoming Death of The Pope".[9][10][11] "I have since learned that there would not have been an opportunity for me to stay anyway," Taibbi later wrote.[12]
Taibbi became a Contributing Editor at Rolling Stone, writing feature-length articles on domestic and international affairs. He also wrote a weekly political online column, titled "The Low Post," for the magazine's website.[13]
Taibbi covered the 2008 presidential campaign for Real Time with Bill Maher.[14] He was invited as a guest on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show[15] and other MSNBC programs. He also has appeared on Democracy Now![16] and Chapo Trap House,[17] and served as a contributor on Countdown with Keith Olbermann.[18] Taibbi is an occasional guest on the Thom Hartmann radio and TV shows. He is a regular contributor/guest on the Imus in the Morning Show' on the Fox Business network.
Financial journalism
His July 2009 Rolling Stone article "The Great American Bubble Machine" described Goldman Sachs as "a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money".[19][20][21] In financial and political media the expression "Vampire Squids" has come to represent the perception of the financial and investment sector as entities that "sabotage production" and "sink the economy as they suck the life out of it in the form of rent."[22]
Tackling the assistance to banks given in foreclosure courts, Taibbi traveled to Jacksonville, Florida to observe the "rocket docket." He concluded that it processed foreclosures without regard to the legality of the financial instruments being ruled upon, and speeded up the process to enable quick resale of the properties, while obscuring the fraudulent and predatory nature of the loans.[23]
Financial scandals were frequently headlines in 2012, and Taibbi's analyses of their machinations brought him invitations as an expert to discuss events on nationally broadcast television programs.[24][25] In a discussion of the Libor revelations, Taibbi's coverage [26] was singled out by Dennis Kelleher, president of Better Markets, Inc., as most important on the topic and required reading.
In February 2014, Taibbi joined First Look Media to head a financial and political corruption-focused publication called Racket.[27] However, after management disputes with First Look's leadership delayed its launch and led to its cancellation, Taibbi returned to Rolling Stone the following October.[28]
Sports journalism
Taibbi also wrote a column called "The Sports Blotter" for the free weekly newspaper, The Boston Phoenix, until September 2010. He covered arrests, civil suits, and criminal trials involving professional, college and at times, high school athletes.
Awards
In 2008, Taibbi was awarded the National Magazine Award in the category "Columns and Commentary" for his Rolling Stone columns.[29] He won a Sidney Award in 2009 for his article "The Great American Bubble Machine".[30]
Controversy
In March 2005, Taibbi's satirical essay, "The 52 Funniest Things About the Upcoming Death of the Pope",[31] published in the New York Press, was denounced by Hillary ClintonMichael BloombergMatt DrudgeAbe Foxman, and Anthony Weiner. Subsequently, the editor who approved the column was fired.[32] Taibbi defended the piece as "off-the-cuff burlesque of truly tasteless jokes," written to give his readers a break from a long run of his "fulminating political essays." Taibbi also said he was surprised at the vehement reactions to what he wrote "in the waning hours of a Vicodin haze".[33]
Journalist James Verini, while interviewing Taibbi in a Manhattan restaurant for Vanity Fair, said Taibbi cursed and threw a coffee at him, then accosted him as he tried to get away, all in response to Verini's volunteered opinion that Taibbi's book, The Exile: Sex, Drugs, and Libel in the New Russia, was "redundant and discursive".[34] The interview took place in 2010, and Taibbi later described the incident as "an aberration from how I've behaved in the last six or seven years".[35]
After the death of conservative commentator Andrew Breitbart, in March 2012, Taibbi wrote an obituary in Rolling Stone, titled "Andrew Breitbart: Death of a Douche."[36] Many conservatives were angered by the obituary, though Taibbi claimed that it was "at least half an homage," claiming respect for aspects of Breitbart's style but also alluding to Breitbart's own openly derisive obituary of Ted Kennedy.



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At Thursday's Democratic debate, Senator Bernie Sanders was questioned about his perspective on the crisis in Venezuela and responded with his vision of what democratic socialism should look like. "I agree with what goes on in Canada and in Scandinavia: guaranteeing healthcare to all people as a human right. I believe that the United States should not be the only major country on Earth not to provide paid family and medical leave," Sanders says. "I believe that every worker in this country deserves a living wage and that we expand the trade union movement." Julian Brave NoiseCat, a journalist and director of the Green New Deal strategy at Data for Progress, finds that Sanders' answer distinguished his take on socialism from the broader left and clarified its priorities of human rights, healthcare and worker rights. Sanders is "talking about the legacies of people who fight for universal human rights, the right to healthcare, the right to housing, economic and social rights," NoiseCat says. "And I think that... continuing to distinguish that this is exactly what the broader left, generally, and then what the socialist movement, in particular, is pushing for is an important thing." #DemocraticDebate #DemocracyNow Democracy Now! is an independent global news hour that airs on nearly 1,400 TV and radio stations Monday through Friday. Watch our livestream 8-9AM ET: https://democracynow.org Please consider supporting independent media by making a donation to Democracy Now! today: https://democracynow.org/donate



THIS NEXT ITEM IS THE MAJOR SPEECH BERNIE MADE LAST JUNE, IN WHICH HE TALKED EXCLUSIVELY ON THE SUBJECT OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM. IT IS COMPREHENSIVE AND UNDERSTANDABLE, REMINDING PEOPLE OF WHAT WE HAVE DEPENDED UPON FOR ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS NOW -- SOCIAL SECURITY. ASK YOUR MOTHER IF SHE WANTS TO GIVE HERS UP AND LIVE ON HER OWN SAVINGS ALONE, OR YOUR DAUGHTER EITHER IF SHE IS ALERT TO WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IN POLITICS. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FOOL THE PUBLIC INTO ALLOWING WORKERS TO KEEP THEIR PAYROLL TAXES FOR THEIR OWN UNDOUBTEDLY BRILLIANT INVESTMENTS. SOMETIMES CHOICE IS NOT REALLY A GOOD IDEA.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT SOCIAL SECURITY FUND IF PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE THEIR MONETARY INPUT OUT AND BUY STOCKS OR REAL ESTATE OR SOME OTHER GREAT DEAL WITH IT. EACH PAYMENT GOING OUT TO AN ELDERLY OR DISABLED PERSON IS COMING ACTUALLY, NOT FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL'S PERSONAL "FUND," BUT FROM THE DAILY INCOMING TAXES FRESH FROM THE WAGES OF CURRENT EMPLOYEES. SOME CONSERVATIVE WISEACRE IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO CALLED IT "PONZI SCHEME." IT ISN'T, THOUGH, BECAUSE WHAT BERNIE MADOFF DID WAS TO FAIL TO ACTUALLY INVEST HIS CLIENTS' MONEY EXCEPT INTO HIS OWN POCKETS. THAT'S A PONZI SCHEME. HAD HE DONE THE INVESTMENTS AND THEN PAID THEM THEIR RETURNS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS. OF COURSE THAT TAKES A YUUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO COVER THE RETURNS.     

SO, ASSUMING AMERICANS ARE SMART PEOPLE, WHY CAN'T WE PROPERLY HANDLE THE INVESTMENTS AND SAVINGS AS WE ALL KNOW WE SHOULD? LET'S FACE IT, MOST PEOPLE CANNOT MANAGE TO SAVE MUCH GIVEN THE DAILY LIFE BILLS AND EXPENSES AND OUR LOW WAGES. IF WE HAD A REAL SURPLUS, WE COULD, BUT THAT JUST ISN'T THE CASE. THE SOCIAL SECURITY TAXES TAKE IT OUT OF THEIR PAY BEFORE THEY GET A CHANCE TO SPEND IT, PERHAPS FOOLISHLY, AND IF THEY ARE ESPECIALLY ASTUTE AT INVESTMENTS, THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO DO IT DESPITE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES.

MODERN INVESTMENT PLANS LINKED TO RETIREMENT FROM WORK ARE GOOD FOR THAT, BUT YOU STILL GET TO KEEP YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT AS WELL WITH THOSE. MY POINT IS THAT INVESTMENT SHOULD BE AN OPTION FOR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INCOME AND NOT A NECESSITY JUST TO GET BY. THAT'S THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE. MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED TO DO THOSE WEALTH PRODUCING JOBS SUCH AS MEDICINE AND LAW -- AND POLITICS.

OF COURSE, MOST WHO GET REALLY WEALTHY HAVE NOT A "JOB" BUT A MARKETABLE IDEA, A PLAN, A UNIQUE TALENT, A NEW WIDGET, ETC. I WISH THEM WELL AND I RESPECT THEM, BUT IF THEY MAKE IN THE $500,000 RANGE, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD PAY A MUCH STEEPER RANGE OF WEALTH / INCOME TAXES INTO THE PUBLIC COFFERS SO THAT MOST PEOPLE WILL GET A LITTLE BOOST FROM TAXING THEM. THE CURRENT WEALTH DIVIDE IS TRULY UNCONSCIONABLE. YES, THAT MAKES ME A "TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL." TO ME A NATION HAS RESPONSIBILITIES TOWARD ALL WHO LIVE THERE, AND ABOVE ALL, IT IS NOT THE GREAT PIGGY BANK FOR CORPORATE INTERESTS. TO DEFEND MY VIEWS, I WILL PRESENT THIS EXCELLENT VIDEO ON THE THEORY OF GOVERNMENT WRITTEN BY JEAN-JACQUES ROUSSEAU.

Bernie Sanders: Trump believes in corporate socialism, I believe in democratic socialism
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Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont delivered an address explaining and defending democratic socialism. The 2020 presidential candidate said the ideology is often misunderstood. CBS News political correspondent Ed O'Keefe and CBSN political contributor Sean Sullivan join CBSN's "Red & Blue" with more.
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WHO MIGHT BERNIE SANDERS' VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BE, IF HE WINS? I THINK THE MOST LIKELY WOULD BE WARREN, OR HE MIGHT BE HERS. ANYWAY, THIS IS A GOOD LIST OF THE MOST PROMINENT AND INTERESTING POSSIBILITIES. EXCELLENT PHOTOS OF EVERY MAJOR CANDIDATE ARE FEATURED WITH A BRIEF BIO OF EACH, ALONG WITH THOUGHT PROVOKING OBSERVATIONS ON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL RACE FOR 2020. TECHNICALLY, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY "RUN" FOR VICE PRESIDENT. IT'S A NOMINATION PROCESS. THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS IF TRUMP IS UNSEATED EARLY -- PENCE WILL BE PRESIDENT, AND HE HASN'T BEEN TESTED BY THE REFINERS FIRE OF PUBLIC ATTENTION.


Who Is Running for Vice President in 2020? These Are the Contenders for the Democratic Nomination
By 
September 9, 2019

In the 243 years since 1776, the Republic has soldiered on for 38 of them—16% of its existence—without a vice president. It’s not such an important job.

That said, the only person to land the presidency without a single vote being cast for them was Gerald Ford, who ascended House of Cards-style through Richard Nixon’s vice presidency after Spiro Agnew’s resignation. So it’s not nothing.

If there is a black swan to American political conventional wisdom, it’s the resident of the U.S. Naval Observatory who works in the Executive Office Building at the far-less-sexy 1650 Pennsylvania Avenue. 

The quintessential vice presidency is still John F. Kennedy’s selection of Lyndon B. Johnson in 1960, which gave the youngest-ever president an elder statesman at his side, pulled Johnson out of the running as an antagonist in the Senate, helped win Texas in a national election that was still won by only 112,987 voters, 0.17% of the popular vote, and created the definitive moment of referring to the vice presidency as “a heartbeat away from the Oval Office,” as LBJ was sworn in as Air Force One raced JFK’s corpse to Washington.

But 1960 was 69 years ago, when Alaska and Hawai’i were year-old states—before the creation of Medicare, the Education Department, Housing Department, Energy Department, Homeland Security, the Environmental Protection Agency, the 25th or 26th amendments, before civil rights, Miranda rights, Roe v. Wade, 24-hour news, the Internet, gay marriage, or social media. Just about the only thing that hasn’t changed is our Cold War against Russians. Hillary Clinton’s loss could be seen as the last gasp of the Democrats '90s heyday. Next up: a truly 21st-century contender. 

A 21st-Century Contender

While running for vice president isn’t a political move per se, the crowded field of contenders for the Democratic party’s 2020 nomination guarantees plenty of losers hoping to save face in the coming months.

Five Republican losers in 2016—Chris Christie, Newt Gingrich, Nikki Haley, John Kasich, and Rob Portman—were offered Donald Trump’s vice presidency before it went to Mike Pence. Fortune asked experts—authors, historians, and other cultural cognoscenti—to wax political on what the vice presidency now means in perpetual election cycles and whose strengths and weaknesses are maximized by that tough tightrope stretched between functional and charming—avocado milquetoast, so to speak.

“You want a plausible president,” says Joel Goldstein, a law professor at St. Louis University who wrote The White House Vice Presidency: The Path to Significance, Mondale to Biden, “someone who will follow, not lead. People talk about Palin but look at Paul Ryan with Romney in 2012 or John Edwards with Kerry in 2004. Edwards was more interested in John Edwards on the ticket than John Kerry on it.”

Palin Redux

Broadly though, the nightmare scenario is another Sarah Palin, who unraveled under the sudden, surprise pressure of national attention in 2008, spreading unspooled, untested, and uniformed into an outsized role on the campaign trail. For Democrats licking their wounds after 2016, “there’s some apprehension about putting a woman in the #1 spot again,” says Ellen Fitzpatrick, a history professor at the University of New Hampshire who wrote The Highest Glass Ceiling: Women’s Quest for the American Presidency. “Maybe #2 works better.”

As well, Black Lives Matter, MeToo, and the immigration crisis are now newly emboldened litmus tests for voters.

“Diversity is a strength but also a challenge,” says Fitzpatrick. Allyship—Bill Clinton as the nation’s first black president or Barack Obama as the first gay president—is clashing hard with the desire for actual representation epitomized by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

“I think about Shirley Chisholm running for president in 1972 and saying it’s not enough to be taken for granted as a voting bloc, that people demand to be seen and heard, truly represented,” adds Fitzpatrick. “That time is now.”

A Pew Research Center poll in May found white men to be the least-inspiring nominees among Democrats. Two white men haven’t won an election for the Democrats since 1996, nearly a quarter-century ago. Not that Democrats are about to nominate Kanye West and The Rock. “At some point soon, a ticket will have two minorities or two women,” says Goldstein, “but not in 2020.”

“There are, in any case, too many of them,” says Felipe Fernández-Armesto, a history professor at the University of Notre Dame who wrote Our America: A Hispanic History of the United States, “too little differentiated from one another and too poorly qualified to be worthy of support. The best way to enhance their credibility—if by credibility one means other people’s trust in and esteem for them—would be to withdraw. If either of the two senior candidates, Biden or Sanders, becomes the nominee, I hope he won’t reward with candidacy for vice presidency any of the also-rans who have cluttered the hustings.*

Nevertheless, here are candidate-by-candidate rundowns presented alphabetically, the only pecking order out of Washington’s swampy grasp.

Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams delivers the Democratic response to President Donald Trump's State of the Union address.
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Stacey Abrams
People don’t run for the vice presidency. But Abrams is not most people. Although not a presidential candidate, she has openly courted the vice presidency—without suitors, perhaps given her turnaround since March, when she swatted rumors of running with Biden by saying “You don’t run for second place.”

And yet: “A black woman from the South ticks a lot of boxes for a lot of Washington consultants,” says Fitzpatrick. Abrams’ failed 2018 run for governor of Georgia was widely seen as stolen, offering a systemic redemption story for voters who feel Hillary Clinton’s election was also rigged against her.

Democratic presidential candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden speaks at the New Hampshire Democratic Party Convention at the SNHU Arena on September 7, 2019 in Manchester, New Hampshire.
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Joe Biden
There is virtually no chance Biden has any interest in being vice president a third time, although it’s legally possible. Biden himself was redeemed by Obama for his performances in debates, which helped turn around Biden’s rough start in 2007, when he called Obama “articulate and clean.”

Democratic presidential hopeful Cory Booker addresses the Presidential Forum at the NAACP's 110th National Convention at Cobo Center on July 24, 2019, in Detroit, Michigan.
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Cory Booker

Passed over by Hillary Clinton, “Booker hasn’t done himself any favors going after Biden on race,” says Jules Witcover, a longtime political reporter who wrote The American Vice Presidency: From Irrelevance to Power, “given there’s still a good chance Biden could win. It’s not just about demographics or all of these calculations we have now, it’s also about chemistry.”

Booker is also the only unmarried man in the mix, forcing consideration of worst-case scenarios in which a breakup with his new girlfriend, Rosario Dawson, becomes messy tabloid fodder—although that’s a risk avoided by two other prominent Democratic bachelors whispered as possible presidents: Michael Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo.

And given that Ocasio-Cortez is too young for the job (a vice president must be at least 35 years old), perhaps Vice President Booker could be the White House’s new tweeter-in-chief.

Democratic presidential hopeful South Bend, Indiana mayor Pete Buttigieg speaks to members of the media before appearing at the Commonwealth Club of California on March 28, 2019 in San Francisco, California.
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Pete Buttigieg
Buttigieg is exactly the kind of choice, like Palin, that may seem historic and progressive, but has broad ability to backfire. His mayoral record on race is fraught, and being praised for reading Ulysses is strange in a race where Elizabeth Warren has written eight books. Even Palin did not have the audacity to leapfrog statewide or federal office to go from mayor to the White House.

“Generally you want someone with 10 to 12 years in the House, Senate, a governorship, or the Cabinet,” says Goldstein. “The mayor of South Bend is so far away from that.”

Former U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro speaks during the Clark County Democrats' Steering Committee Meeting at Sierra Vista High School on Jan. 8, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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Julián Castro
If one of the current longtime front runners—Biden, Sanders, or Warren—becomes the presidential nominee, they will likely need a counter to elderly whiteness from the Northeast.

Castro throws Texas up for grabs, as O’Rourke does, but adds Chisholm-style representation that could help in Latino-strong swing states including Florida, Nevada, North Carolina, and Ohio—and non-Latino liberals who feel Obama brought the party past a point of no return on diversity.

“I can’t bring myself to use the term ‘Latino,’” says Fernández-Armesto. “It’s an academic invention that doesn’t denote me and shows intellectuals’ contempt for ordinary people’s self-designations. We’re really talking about Hispanics, right? Greasers, as our despisers say. The Hispanic vote is going to split roughly 75/25 in favor of Democrats (or around 70/30 if the party exhibits its usual incompetence) whoever’s on the ticket. The most important Hispanic constituency for capturing the Electoral College is in Florida, where Hispanics are largely very conservative. So a radical Hispanic on the ticket will be a lot worse from an electoral point of view than an Anglo or Hibernian-background centrist.”

Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) speaks at the National Action Network's annual convention on April 5, 2019 in New York City.
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Kamala Harris
Although she identifies as a black woman, Harris could also electrify the nation’s vast Indian-American population (her mother is an Indian immigrant, her father is black). But with so much social justice on the agenda, is another prosecutorial lawyer what Democrats want? That criticism may come to bear sharply in guessing appointments to the Supreme Court, which hasn’t had a public defender in its ranks since Thurgood Marshall retired in 1991. 

Senator Amy Klobuchar, D-MN, listens to a speaker during a press conference by the US Travel Association announcing their "Ready to Take Off" plan to attract new visitors to the US May 12, 2011 at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. At left is President of the International Association of Exhibitions and Events Steven Hacker. AFP PHOTO/Mandel NGAN (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
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Amy Klobuchar
“Klobuchar fits with Sanders,” says Goldstein. “Klobuchar is sort of that perfect balance of memorable and forgettable,” says Witcover. “If any of the men win it, they’d be wise to knock at her door.”

Democratic presidential hopeful Beto O'Rourke speaks to supporters after the AARP 2020 Presidential Candidate Forum in Sioux City.
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Beto O'Rourke
While his campaign has rebooted poorly a few times, and O’Rourke amplified criticism that he’s privileged and vain as he focuses on the White House over a Senate seat in Texas, “I can’t see anyone except Mr. O’Rourke enhancing Democratic chances,” says Fernández-Armesto. “We all know what the Democrats’ strategy must be: recover enough Trump defectors among the working classes of Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Except for Mr. O’Rourke I don’t see a potential pick who might have a positive effect on that constituency. The Democrats have spent the last 60 years or so alienating historic supporters: the South, Catholics, and now Jews and low-paid workers. The last category is recoverable and the need to recover is urgent.”

O’Rourke, he sums, is the best candidate to be the president’s “poodle.” His candor and profanity are traits that worked well for Biden. 

Senator Bernie Sanders speaks to cheering supporters at the 2019 California Democratic Party State Organizing Convention at the Moscone Center in San Francisco, California Sunday June 2, 2019.
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Bernie Sanders
A 2016 reminder: Sanders was the only party rival to Hillary Clinton, who opted against including him on her ticket despite her campaign slogan of being “stronger together.” That’s how zero the odds are of Sanders being anyone’s veep.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) speaks during the first night of the Democratic presidential debate on June 26, 2019 in Miami, Florida.
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Elizabeth Warren
“Warren’s policies and rhetoric for putting the squeeze on the financial sector clearly demonstrate her ability to strengthen a Sanders administration focused on economic justice,” says Brian Abrams, author of Obama: An Oral History and Party Like a President: True Tales of Inebriation, Lechery, and Mischief From the Oval Office

Entrepreneur Andrew Yang, who started a digital asset platform, is running as a Democrat in the 2020 presidential race. The cryptocurrency community supports him because of his call for industry regulation. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)
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Andrew Yang
Despite polling better than O’Rourke, who had the darling attention of Vanity Fair and Beyoncé, Yang has low prospects in part because only 6% of the electorate is Asian. That number falls to 2% among Democrats.

About 44% of Asian Americans identify as Democrat, but 42% identify as wild-card Independents. The Asian American Action Fund’s total spending in 2018 was a paltry $108,214. Asian Americans are statistically insignificant culturally and financially in Democrats’ party machinery. More than anyone else in the running, he is campaigning on ideas, but Yang has yet to find his yin.


"cluttered the hustings"*

"HUSTINGS" IS OCCASIONALLY SEEN THESE DAYS, BUT RARELY DEFINED. THAT MAY BE BECAUSE IT HAS MULTIPLE MEANINGS, MOST OF THEM VERY OLD DATING BACK TO THE 12TH CENTURY OR EARLIER, ACCORDING TO MERRIAM-WEBSTER. IN ADDITION IT IS OFTEN USED IN SOME VARIANT WAYS AND CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S LIKE "ON THE STUMP" AND ESPECIALLY "PLATFORM."

SOME ORIGINS FOR THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE MERRIAM-WEBSTER DEFINITIONS BELOW OF HUSTINGS. THIS IS THE KIND OF DEFINING THAT I WANT TO SEE: PRECISE, COMPREHENSIVE, AND HISTORICAL. THE FIRST SOURCE MAY BE GOOGLE ITSELF, AS IT GIVES NO SPECIFIC PUBLICATION EXCEPT "DICTIONARY" AND "From Oxford." CLICKING ON "DICTIONARY," I FOUND "LEXICO POWERED BY OXFORD." IT IS NOT THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY.



DICTIONARY From Oxford
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"HUSTINGS"
noun

a meeting at which candidates in an election address potential voters

the campaigning associated with an election.

plural noun: the hustings
"a formidable political operator at his best on the hustings"

Origin

Late Old English husting ‘deliberative assembly, council’, from Old Norse hústhing ‘household assembly held by a leader’, from hús ‘house’ + thing ‘assembly, parliament’; hustings was applied in Middle English to the highest court of the City of London, presided over by the Recorder of London. Subsequently it denoted the platform in Guildhall where the Lord Mayor and aldermen presided, and (early 18th century) a temporary platform on which parliamentary candidates were nominated; hence the sense ‘electoral proceedings’.


LEXICO'S DEFINITIONS AND HISTORY ABOVE ARE GOOD, BUT THIS ONE BY MERRIAM-WEBSTER IS MORE INCLUSIVE, SO I HAVE USED BOTH.


"hustings"


Definition of hustings

1a: a local court formerly held in various English municipalities and still held infrequently in London
b: a local court in some cities in Virginia

2a: a raised platform used until 1872 for the nomination of candidates for the British Parliament and for election speeches
b: an election platform STUMP
c: the proceedings or locale of an election campaign

Did You Know?
Hustings are where babies are kissed, flesh is pressed, and media events are staged. The term traces to an Old Norse word meaning "house assembly," and 1000 years ago hustings were judicial assemblies where Anglo-Saxon kings and their followers held council and resolved civil disputes. Over time, "hustings" came to refer not only to the assembly but also to the platform where the leaders of such gatherings sat, and in due course the term was applied to the entire campaigning process as well. Nowadays, "on the hustings" is synonymous with "on the stump," and it can refer to any place along the campaign trail where a candidate makes a pitch for public office.

First Known Use of hustings
before the 12th century, in the meaning defined at sense 1a

History and Etymology for hustings
Middle English, from Old English hūsting, from Old Norse hūsthing, from hūs house + thing assembly

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DURING MY ONE AND ONLY TRIP ABROAD, TO BRITAIN AS IT HAPPENS, I WAS TOLD ABOUT A PLACE IN LONDON'S HYDE PARK WHERE A "STUMP" EXISTED THAT WAS USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LONG TRADITION FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE WHO HAD SOME ISSUE OR POINT THAT THEY WISHED TO MAKE COULD LEGALLY STAND ON THAT PARTICULAR "STUMP" AND SPEAK FREELY AS LONG AS THEY DIDN'T USE PROFANITY. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE STUMP AND I CAN'T FIND IT ON GOOGLE, BUT I DID FIND AN INTERESTING CONCEPT CALLED "SPEAKERS' CORNERS." FOR A VERY GOOD READ, GO TO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers%27_Corner. THAT'S VERY MUCH LIKE ONE OF THE DEFINITIONS GIVEN FOR "HUSTINGS," BUT IS SIMPLER BECAUSE IT ISN'T NECESSARILY SPEECH BY AN ANNOUNCED POLITICAL CANDIDATE. IT'S MORE LIKE A FOUNDATION FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND DEMOCRATIC LIFE.  
  
THE TRIP TO BRITAIN THAT I RECALL SO HAPPILY, WAS AN AUTO TRIP, DURING WHICH MY FRIEND AND I ENDANGERED THE LOCAL POPULATION BY DRIVING A RENTED CAR AND VISITING A SMALL BUT EXCITING SERIES OF PLACES. WE ONLY HAD TEN DAYS, SO WE PACKED THE HOURS TIGHTLY. 

WE MADE A LOOP OUT OF LONDON TO CANTERBURY AND DOVER; FROM THERE TRAVELED SOUTH ALONG THE SEACOAST AND THEN TO TOWNS AND SEVERAL FAMOUS ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES IN THE CENTER OF ENGLAND, THEN BACK INTO LONDON BY WAY OF WINDSOR CASTLE. WE THEN DID OUR TOURIST THING IN LONDON, ATE IN A GREAT RESTAURANT CALLED THE SWAN, DID A THAMES BOAT TOUR, WENT TO HYDE PARK, AND MORE. WE SAW MAGNIFICENT STONE WORKS, RANGING FROM PREHISTORIC TO ROMAN TO RENAISSANCE, TRAVELED LITTLE LOCAL ROADS WHICH WERE AS BEAUTIFUL AS THEY WERE TREACHEROUSLY NARROW AND FULL OF CURVES, AND SHEEP, THATCHED ROOFS, NOT TO MENTION THE SURPRISE FOR ME, THE HIGHLY CREATIVE AND INDIVIDUALISTIC RESTAURANT AND INN SIGNS. IT RANKS UP THERE IN PERSONAL IMPORTANCE WITH FINDING MY OWN TRUE LOVE. IF YOU READ ENOUGH OLD BRITISH NOVELS AND POETRY, IT MAKES YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT TRIP. 

I AM GRATEFUL TO MY MOTHER FOR ABOUT HALF OF THE MONEY REQUIRED FOR THE EXPENSES. WE NEVER GOT ALONG WELL, BUT SHE MUST HAVE LOVED ME TO DO THAT, AND THEY SAY THAT WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER. TO STRENGTH!





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